Black Friday is nearly upon us and some of the best deals we expect to see are already dropping, like this HP Envy 2-in-1 touchscreen laptop now $899.99 at Best Buy, after being discounted by $450 down from $1,349.99.

Yes, the timing can feel slightly awkward because CES is right around the corner in January, and all the big Windows laptop makers debut new generations of products there. But those anticipated models can take another couple of months to actually hit store shelves — and even longer before they see any sizable sales.